Draft Demonstrates How Little Muschamp, Golden Achieved With Pro Prospects

Miami Hurricanes head coach Al Golden shakes hands with Florida State Seminoles head coach Jimbo Fisher after a game at Sun Life Stadium on October 20, 2012 in Miami Gardens, Florida.  (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)
Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher and Miami’s Al Golden have some ground to make up on other big-time coaches like Urban Meyer and Mark Helfrich. (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)

The first College Football Playoff showed us that Urban Meyer is the best coach in college football today, consistently getting the most from his talent. But the recent NFL Draft showed us that he’s going to be even more of a pain in the long term.

For all the attention given to Jimbo Fisher’s 39-3 record at FSU over the last three years, and it is well deserved, Meyer is 38-3 in his three seasons at Ohio State and likely would have gotten even more done if his opening 12-0 team in 2012 wasn’t on NCAA probation and ineligible for the postseason.

Wait, it gets worse with data from the draft.

Jimbo, a spectacular recruiter, led the nation with 11 players selected in the 2015 NFL draft. Included in that was the No. 1 overall pick, quarterback Jameis Winston.

Urban, on the other hand, got shut out altogether in the first round and had only five players drafted from his Buckeyes team. He was down to his third quarterback by the end of the season and won the national championship anyway.

Conclusion: Meyer already has piled up enormous depth and will continue to develop young players at a rate far beyond most coaches. This is cumulative Nick Saban stuff, but not even Alabama could do anything with Ohio State when they met in the national semifinals on New Year’s Day. No reason to think that Jim Harbaugh will be able to catch up to Urban in the Big Ten anytime soon either.

If any of this makes you cringe, better not read on. The NFL draft has some ugly stuff to say about Florida and Miami.

Here is a chart showing the total number of overall draft picks selected from some prominent schools over the last two years.

In the opinion of NFL personnel pros, Florida’s Will Muschamp had more potential professional-quality talent among his upperclassmen than Meyer did, yet still managed to go 11-13 in his last two seasons with the Gators. If anything, Jeremy Foley should have pulled the rug out from under Muschamp sooner.

Also, Miami is in a class with Ohio State and Oregon when it comes to potential pros on its roster. Problem is, those other two teams played in January’s National Championship Game.

Miami’s Al Golden, meanwhile, is losing steam with two minor bowl losses and a 6-7 record last year. Looks like Al is getting the minimum from his guys. Anything less than an ACC title game appearance in 2015 and he should be gone, too.

Meanwhile, if you’re looking for an overachiever, it’s Mark Helfrich, who got an in-house promotion when Chip Kelly left Oregon for the NFL. Hasn’t done much wrong since, going 24-4 and doing it without the advantage of an abundant Florida recruiting harvest in his own backyard.

Would Florida have done better hiring Helfrich instead of Jim McElwain? Could be, but it’s a moot point. The Gators program has dipped to a point where a guy like Helfrich, supported by Phil Knight’s Nike money, is out of reach.

For NFL Talent, You Still Can Do Worse Than Florida Rivalry Games

By Dave George, Palm Beach Post Sports Columnist


Here’s a heartwarming tidbit from the NFL Draft.

When it comes to total accumulation of talent on one field, you can still do a lot worse than buying a ticket for an FSU-Florida or FSU-Miami game.

When the Seminoles beat Florida 24-19 last November, there were a total of 19 eventual 2015 draft picks in the game. Four of those – Jameis Winston and Cameron Erving for FSU, Dante Fowler, Jr., and D.J. Humphries for the Gators – were first-rounders.

AP photo
AP photo

In FSU’s 30-26 win over Miami, 18 players in that game were bound for the 2015 draft. Again, four of them were first-rounders, with Miami’s Ereck Flowers and Phillip Dorsett adding to the FSU pair.

Comparatively, the Texas-Oklahoma game featured 11 players who would be drafted in 2015.

Auburn-Alabama had 12, Ohio State-Michigan had eight and Notre Dame-USC had seven.

FSU plays the Hurricanes Oct. 10 in Tallahassee. The Seminoles travel to Gainesville to play the Gators Nov. 28.


In the mood for a limerick?

Too bad. I got the music in me and I just can’t keep it in


There is a young star named Giancarlo

Who brings baseball fans in by the carload.

Three twenty-five million,

Or was it gazillion?

For him Fish will beg, steal or borrow

We’re A Little Too Tough On Ryan Tannehill

Saw the other day where the Washington Redskins picked up their fifth-year option on Robert Griffin III for the 2016 season. They’re trying to sound happy about it.

At times like these, I recognize how tough we all are on Ryan Tannehill.

The guy played wide receiver for half his career at Texas A&M. He didn’t win the Heisman Trophy, like Griffin did. Tannehill’s most attractive features coming out of college were size (6-feet-4) and arm strength plus experience playing under Mike Sherman, the Aggies coach turned Dolphins playcaller.

Well, Sherman is gone and one day Joe Philbin will be, too, but the Dolphins will continue to build on Tannehill, who was drafted No. 8 overall in 2012 and is at least holding his own with a 23-25 career record.

Compare that to Griffin. The Redskins traded first-round picks two years into the future to move up and get him at No. 2 overall that same draft, right behind Andrew Luck.

RGIII won a division title in his first pro season but he hasn’t played every game, like Tannehill has. Miami’s guy is more durable.

Tannehill has won more games, too. RGIII’s career record with the Redskins is 14-21 in the regular season and 0-1 in the playoffs. Overall, Tannehill has 63 touchdown passes in 48 starts. Griffin has 40 touchdown passes in 35 starts.

Allen Eyestone/Palm Beach Post
Allen Eyestone/Palm Beach Post

Now we could go on and on with the comparisons, measuring Tannehill, for instance, against Luck, but once more that would lead to being overly tough on the Dolphins’ leader.

The way I see it, Tannehill’s doing about as good as can be expected given that he wasn’t fully formed as a quarterback coming out of college and he’s been sacked 139 times behind a Miami offensive line that’s constantly in flux.

Doing research on another story I came across an old box score that showed No. 1 seed UCLA losing to Memphis by 15 points in the 2008 national semifinals. The Bruins had Russell Westbrook and Kevin Love and didn’t win a championship, which helps explain why former UCLA coach Ben Howland is at Mississippi State today.


Oh, that Memphis team, featuring Derrick Rose, was coached by John Calipari. He’s the king of Kentucky now, which doesn’t sound so good for Howland’s SEC debut either.

From time to time we’ll want to class up the blog with a little culture. That would be very little, as in a limerick.

“Jim McElwain’s the new Bull Gator

He’ll be winning sooner or later

The best he’s got going

Is everyone knowing

He’s exiting Will Muschamp’s crater.”